Hamid and John are two friends since a long time. They used to go to the same
school and to the same university. They now work at the same corporation and
even in the same office. Hamid is a religious Muslim, while John is a Christian,
a protestant under no specific school.
You loved me when I was so unlovely
You sought me when I was lost
You showed me how much You really loved me
When You bought me at the highest cost
There's no greater love than this
There's no greater love than this
That a man would give his life for a friend
There's no higher sacrifice
Than a man would give his life
You have paid the highest price for me
You chose me when I was so unworthy
You cleansed me with Your own blood
You clothed me with righteousness and mercy
And You crowned me with Your steadfast love
One day, a disaster happened to the city they
live in. A huge rock got separated from a mountain and felt over more than 50
houses. The next day at office, the following conversation took place between
Hamid and John.
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Hamid: have you seen what happened
yesterday?
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John: It was a disaster.
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Hamid: do you know that there are more than 500
persons under the rock
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John: Unfortunately, most of the them are still
alive, and nobody could do anything
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Hamid: and the government are not taking any
realistic action
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John: I wonder if there were a nuclear bomb under
that rock, would they leave it?
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Hamid: They would do the impossible to move it in
one day
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John: Or if the president’s family is under it
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Hamid: the rock will be vanished
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John: there is nothing impossible to man these days.
Everything could be done
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Hamid: look at the pyramids, rockets, airplanes,
trains, factories, genetic engineering
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John: they are miracles
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Hamid: we do not have miracles in Islam
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John: We have
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Hamid: Only in your bible
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John: You mean only by Jesus
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Hamid: what is the difference, Jesus is a man like
us
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John: not exactly. Jesus is a man. Indeed. He is
also God
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Hamid: that is hearsay in Islam. There is only one
God
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John: Exactly, and there is also one man. (pause)
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Hamid: there are billions of men
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John: no, only one creation called man, you are a
man, I am a man, anybody else is a man. We are all under one tree called
“Man”
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Hamid: and how does that make Jesus
God?
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John: He will be a liar who could tell you that he
knows God. No one knows God, we just believe in him, feel his existence, and
above all... need him. And no one knows man. man was, still, and will always be
a mystery. But there is something we all agree on: Man is not God. Man is
different from God. However, man is not the opposite of God. So, if we say that
Man is a line, the simplest symbol. God could not be prospected as a line in an
opposite direction.
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Hamid: Yes, I agree on that. Man is not for sure the
opposite of God, but he is different.
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John: So, we can compare man to a horizontal line,
and God to a vertical line. As we cannot compare man to a line moving from right
to left, and compare God to a line moving to the opposite direction.
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Hamid: yes, yes, I got it from the beginning, but
where is Jesus in all of that?
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John: Join the two lines together. Make a relation
between the Vertical and the Horizontal.
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Hamid: an intersection Point will be formed.
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John: Here is Jesus. That Joint connects the two
totally different natures together; man and God. He is a total man. You cannot
say he is not. And he is totally God, you cannot say he is not.
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Hamid: you Christians believe that God left heavens
and the universe and incarnated into Jesus.
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John: of course not. Jesus is the link
between man and God. Jesus is a “Relationship”. A bond connecting man to God.
Only through Jesus one could know God. Only through “Love” one could know God.
Simply, Jesus is Love.
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Hamid: so when we say: “man loves God” we mean “
man-Jesus-God” ? as if Jesus is a way to God ?
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John: it should be said “God loves man” meaning “God
– Jesus – man”. Through Jesus, God expressed his love to man. Through Jesus man
could love God
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Hamid: but that also makes Jesus better than man and
lower than God.
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John: look at the Joint in the cross. It is not
better or lower than anything. It is a link. Without it the two segments will
never get connected. Only through Jesus you will know God. Only through Love you
will approach God.
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Hamid: by “you” you mean me or man?
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John: you as a man. It is man.
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Hamid: we have love in Islam. Islam calls for love.
I guess most of religions call for love and believe in it.
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John: There are many kinds and forms of love.
Starting from sex, motherhood, marriage, romance, brotherhood, all are love.
However, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his
friends." The Lord came here while we were yet sinners and gave His life for us.
(Romans 5:8) The Holy Bible says that perhaps for a righteous man one will die;
but for an unrighteous man, none would give his life. God's love was indeed very
great because when He came, none of us were righteous. None of us were good. We
were all concluded under sin. Man was walking in the wrong direction, worshiping
the wrong master. But He came and gave His life for us. There is no love greater
than that. In the beginning, God created everything. He created the heavens and
the earth. He created the firmament. He created all of the stars and the
planets. He created this earth and all that is herein. And the Bible says that
on the sixth day, God created His most important creation-man. Everything else
that God created was created by the word of His mouth. When He said, "Let there
be light," there was light! But the Bible says that God created man in a special
way. He scooped dust from the ground, formed it and breathed into it the breath
of life, and man became a living soul. (Gen. 2:7) And God told man, "I will give
to you all of Creation. You will rule everything. All that you can see are
yours. Here in the Garden, you can eat the fruit from all of the trees except
for one - the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. For the moment you eat
from this tree, you will surely die." (Gen. 3:15-17) Now, all of God's creations
are under the jurisdiction of His power except for one thing; and that is the
power of choice that had been given to man. God did not invade our will power to
choose what we want to do. We are a free moral agent. We have the power to
choose! We can even choose to disobey God or obey Him; accept Him or reject Him.
This choice was also given to our first parents, Adam and Eve. But what did they
do? By that time, the devil had already been thrown down to the earth. He became
envious of man because man had the very position that the devil wanted-inheritor
of everything that God had created. So the devil said, "I will deceive man." The
devil entered into the serpent. You know the story,
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Hamid: ya
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John: I believe that the devil is not a being in
itself; it is not a serpent or a monster as in pictures. It is the opposite of
love. It is an opposing force to that of Love. It is the force of selfishness,
materialism, degradation, degeneration. It is the attitude of thinking in
oneself only and positioning the whole world around one’s self. (pause) .. The
devil has many forms. In the past it took the shape of a serpent.
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Hamid: and now?
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John: money
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Hamid: I agree, money is a very powerful motivation
to man. The more money one could gain, the more strength he could have.
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John: Just like Love
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Hamid: I totally agree with you. There was a story
about a bodyguard who used to have low salaries for protecting people, and he
didn’t usually exert more effort that will cause him any harm. After some time,
he was offered an un imaginable salary to work as a bodyguard for some prince.
He found no problem losing his arm taking the bullet to protect the prince. See!
That is the power of money. Then one day he was waling with his daughter and a
gang tried to harm her. He, without hesitation, sacrificed his life protecting
her.
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John: Even without a reward
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Hamid: Love is much more stronger than
money
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John: but yet still money is a strong motivation and
a severe enemy to Love as a motivator
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Hamid: but money is not evil in itself.
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John: It is the attitude of regarding life in a
materialistic point of view
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Hamid: One should regard life from the “Other’s”
point of view, With the attitude of Love. Please continue your story.
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John: The devil deceived Adam and Eve and they
disobeyed God. That was when sin came into the world. Sin is disobedience to the
will of God. Sin is the trespassing of God's law. It is violating the law of
nature; the law that states that man is a “Part” of life not the master of it.
There was a harmony in nature, everyone had a rule, and no one was mastering the
whole, except God, The creator of the whole. Adam and Eve trespassed against
God's law that day. So sin entered into the life of man. When sin entered, the
devil knew that death would enter also. If sin came in, curse would also come
in. That was how man was removed from the will of God through his own choice.
Man was cast out from the Garden of Eden, and that was when the curse began.
Weeds began to grow from the ground. Thorns and thistles sprang up. Animals
became wild. The lion and the tiger became ferocious. Man was driven from the
Garden of Eden because he had sinned against God. Man was under the curse. It
was his sin that served as the wall of separation between man and God, but God
wanted to restore man to Himself. But how, when man was sinful? It was then that
a plan was made to redeem you and me back to God. It was called the plan of
redemption! All men are born sinful because of the sin of disobedience that we
had inherited from Adam and Eve. We cannot break free from this bondage of sin!
We do not have the power. And so God made a plan to redeem man and restore him
to the Garden of Eden. And He first planned to do this through His mighty and
terrible power! In the Old Testament, God showed his mighty power many times and
men trembled. They trembled in Egypt . They trembled in the desert. They
trembled at the Red Sea . They trembled at Sodom and Gomorrah , but there was no
change in their lives. So the destructive power of God failed to change man. Man
still could not return to fellowship with God! So God made a perfect plan, which
was going to be perfected not by force, and not by mighty power. He said, "As
the devil had deceived man to use his freedom of choice to commit sin, I will
come down and do the same. I will let man use his own freedom of choice to get
away from Sin." So He came without our asking Him to come. It was a voluntary
leaving of the portals of glory to come down to this earth full of sin and
iniquity! It was the God of heaven, displaying Himself in vulnerability. John
3:16 says, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." He
came and walked among us. The Bible says that He walked around the dusty shores
of Jerusalem, Judea, Galilee and Samaria doing that which was good; healing the
sick, letting the lame walk. Lepers were being healed. The dead were being
raised. The blind did see. It was love in demonstration. He came to get the
glory from the hands of the devil and free us from the prison wall we call sin.
Jesus Christ as the Bible says, was like a lamb that was ready for the
slaughter. He opened not His mouth. He remained silent, no matter what the
people did to Him, He returned good. We fell into the ground, broken into
pieces, but Jesus Christ came and lovingly picked up all the broken pieces of
our lives and fit them together delicately once again. He wanted to create us in
His own image. Not by means of power, but by the power of love! Jesus Christ
needed to do everything through love. If He had made a single mistake and did
something not through love, but by His mighty power, this salvation plan would
fail! Through love, man would be saved! Through love, the Lord went deep into
our hearts, into our spirit where sin has taken root! The Bible is not complete
without the supreme story of God's love sacrificing for us. In his earthly
ministry, false accusations flowed thick everywhere Jesus went, saying that He
was an impostor, that He was a deceiver and that He was not true, that His
claims as a Messiah were all false and that He was deceiving the people. That He
was a cult. He was like a sheep going to the slaughter, but he opened not His
mouth. Pilate asked the people, "What will I do with this Jesus of Nazareth?"
And the people cried, "Crucify Him!" At that very moment, the love of God was
displayed among men. He stood there, without saying a single word. He was alone.
He walked through what we are walking through. He was human like us. He was
tempted in all points as we are tempted, yet He was without sin. When He was
delivered into the hands of the people, He was arrested. He was stripped of His
clothes. He was mocked. He was reviled. His face was beaten. He was spat upon.
He did not speak against the people. His heart was not angered. He gave Himself
for the sins of men. They laid bare His back. He was tied on the scourging post,
His back facing His tormentors. The Roman soldiers had a whip. This whip had
tails made of leather. In the center of that leather was a steel ball. Attached
to it was a hook with three heads. These three heads had nine tails. When these
tails are scourged at your back, each of the nine tails would imbed deep into
your skin. Your skin will split open as the hooks pierced your body, deep into
your flesh. These 9 hooks, times 3 is equal to 27 hooks, when pulled back, would
bring skin and flesh along with it. The Lord received thirty-nine stripes on His
back. The Bible says that He was wounded for our transgressions. He was bruised
for our iniquities. The chastisement for our sins was upon Him and by His
stripes we are healed. Hallelujah! They took a thorny vine called the Jerusalem
vine. They formed this into a crown, purposely made smaller than Jesus' head.
They tied strings on both sides. And as they set it upon Jesus head, they pulled
the strings down so that the thorns pierced deeply into Jesus' head. The blood
began to spurt from Jesus brow, flowing down over His eyes, over His face.
Isaiah 53:2 foretold the passion of Jesus Christ . He said, "there was no beauty
that we should desire Him." They took the Lord and made Him carry a big cross
down the way we call the Via Dolorosa. He carried His cross bearing our sins,
bearing our iniquity, the curse, and the debt that was upon us. In the courtroom
scene of heaven, we were condemned to die because we had committed sin. But He
came and stood before the judge and said, "I will take their place and I will
die for them." Before He went to Golgotha 's hill, He prayed for three times and
told the Father, "Let this cup pass from me." He knew that He was going to
suffer. The flesh was trying to contradict the will of God. But deep down
inside, there was a cause greater than the flesh. It was the cause of salvation
because Jesus saw that by the disobedience of one, all have died; and by the
obedience of one, all are going to live! The Lord saw this and so He did not
mind the shame! He did not mind the suffering! He did not mind the cross! He did
not mind the bitter cup when He saw the reward before Him. He saw you and me
gathering here. He saw all of His children around the world that would come to
Him by love. Jesus Christ said, "I will accept Your will. Not my will but Thine
be done." So He carried the cross. When He arrived at Golgotha , the Place of
the Skull, Mount Calvary , they laid Him down. His face was swollen. His back
was wounded. His lips were cracked because of thirst. They took spikes that were
about nine inches long and they began to nail the Savior. Every time they
hammered the nails into His hands and into His feet, it was the love of God
triumphing. Then His cross was pulled up. It was erected slanted slightly
downward. This was calculated so that solely the spikes in the hands and feet
will hold the weight of the body. This was the Romans' ultimate tactic for
convicted prisoners to suffer. The Lord was crucified in this fashion for six
hours, hanging between heaven and earth, suspended in the air. Medical doctors
say that a man crucified in this manner will not die because of the loss of
blood. A man crucified in this fashion will die because of the irregular beating
of his heart. So I therefore conclude, that Jesus Christ died of a broken heart.
He was broken hearted because of you and me. When Jesus Christ said, "Father, it
is finished!" That means He had done it. "I came and I conquered by the power of
love!" This love displayed on Calvary is the same love that is now drawing us to
Him like a magnet. Nobody has forced you to come before Him! Nobody forced you
to receive Him as your personal Savior! Nobody told you by force to accept Him!
Nobody will curse you if you will not obey His words! You came to Him because
you love Him. What does the Bible say? "Greater love hath no man than this that
a man will lay down His life for His friends." (Jn.15:13) This is the power of
love. It is that power that will deliver you from demon possession. It is that
power that will deliver you from diseases and sickness. It is that power that
will deliver you from financial distress. And it is that power that will deliver
you from the darkness of sin. This is the power of love. If you ask me why I
have chosen to love Him? Well, because He first loved me.
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Hamid: are you trying to convert me to a Christian
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John: do you believe that God is Love? If you love
God from all your heart, and senses, and love everyone just like you love
yourself, that will make you a true Christian by nature.
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Hamid: what made us start that conversation at the
very beginning
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John: I guess you was asking me why there are no
miracles these days, unlike the days of Jesus.
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Hamid: I can answer that; because there is no Jesus,
because there is no love
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John: you got me,
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Hamid: a lot of good actions taken have been done in
the name, image and system of religion and doctrines, but the ends do not
justify the means -- whatever is done in the name of an institution -- a
denomination, a doctrine of faith, or beast, will tend to be viewed as something
done 'in the sight': Id Est for a religious or institutional interest, unlike
what is done 'not by sight' --not institutional--, but secretly, for
Emunah--total fidelitate/fidelity.
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John: you are becoming a philosopher
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Hamid: it is just an attitude, when you are inspired
by it, everything become clear.
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John: so what do you think of Heaven now?
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Hamid: with my new attitude, it is returning back to
the first state before we sinned, harmonizing again with God and nature. Heaven
is a state of mind, an attitude of clarity, to be clear both in heart and mind.
As clear as a sky.
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John: maybe that is why people think of heaven as if
in the sky although it is inside them.
End of discussion
No Greater
LoveYou loved me when I was so unlovely
You sought me when I was lost
You showed me how much You really loved me
When You bought me at the highest cost
There's no greater love than this
There's no greater love than this
That a man would give his life for a friend
There's no higher sacrifice
Than a man would give his life
You have paid the highest price for me
You chose me when I was so unworthy
You cleansed me with Your own blood
You clothed me with righteousness and mercy
And You crowned me with Your steadfast love
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